[red75prime]

Read Electrek articles with a mouthful of salt. Fred Lambert’s “robotaxi is 10x worse than a human” estimate is based on his personal statistical reasoning, which somehow arrived at 200,000 miles per accident for humans. Minor accidents that Tesla reports for robotaxis (such as low-speed collisions with stationary objects) do not make it into publicly available statistics, so his estimate might be significantly off.

[UltraSane]

Not a single waymo requires a "safety driver" and the self driving never disengages the way it does on Teslas.

[red75prime]

Waymo routinely uses safety drivers, sorry, "autonomous specialists" when expanding to new cities[1][2]. Waymo cars occasionally contact the remote support. If support is not available, the cars just stay where they stopped[3].

Tesla has rolled out a small number of cars with no safety driver[4].

In short, you are either grossly misinformed or intentionally lying. Is it a political echochamber you are stuck in?

[1] https://waymo.com/faq/ "Our vehicles are primarily driving autonomously, but you’ll sometimes notice that our cars have autonomous specialists riding in the driver’s seat. These specialists are there to monitor our autonomous driving technology and share important feedback to help us improve the Waymo experience."

[2] https://waymo.com/waymo-in-uk/ "Our autonomous specialists who are present in the vehicle during testing are highly trained professionals."

[3] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36zdxl41jro

[4] https://youtu.be/03e5ixbXIa4

[UltraSane]

You are grossly misinformed. Waymo self driving never disengages the way Tesla FSD does. It is active at all times. In novel situations humans will provide instructions on what path to take but this is relatively infrequent. Tesla Robotaxis are so bad they need a safety driver in every single car at all times ready to take control when the car does something stupid. The small number of robotaxis without safety drives are limited to a tiny area and not open to the public.

Waymo works while robotaxi doesn't.

[red75prime]

> Waymo self driving never disengages the way Tesla FSD does. It is active at all times

Consumer version of FSD can park a car if a driver doesn't take contol[1]. Waymo seems to require a remote command to initiate parking instead of just standing there with hazard lights on[2].

> Tesla Robotaxis are so bad they need a safety driver in every single car at all times ready to take control

Every single robotaxi in Austin doesn't have a driver behind the wheel. So a driver can't be ready to take control. Stop lying. I no longer believe that you are misinformed.

[1] https://youtu.be/VU3i1Pgk4M0?t=1460

[2] https://waymo.com/blog/2025/12/autonomously-navigating-the-r... "We directed our fleet to pull over and park appropriately"

[UltraSane]

"Every single robotaxi in Austin doesn't have a driver behind the wheel."

Almost ALL of them do. And NO waymo's need them.

https://electrek.co/2026/02/17/tesla-robotaxi-adds-5-more-cr...

Robotaxis is checkers compared to Waymo Chesss