[jbelich]

The same corrupt system which covered up Sandusky's crimes also covered up Mann's academic malfeasance. Michael Mann IS a fraud, and I would expect definitive evidence to come out that will blow up this little libel suit. :-)

There are groups and people at Penn State, long dissenters of the culture of corruption there, who have been investigating and assembling evidence behind the scenes.

[GiraffeNecktie]

So mysterious unnamed "groups and people" have mysterious unspecified information discrediting prominent researcher. Meanwhile scientists all over the world have spent almost twenty years confirming and validating his results. Nevertheless you are super-dooper convinced he is a fraud because ... well because groups and people are gathering evidence. Hmmmmmmm. Well, ok. But I think I'll wait and see what evidence these "groups and people" present before I form an opinion.

[ari_elle]

Could you give me some sources regarding your statements?

I researched myself, but most - including highly respected news organizations - report about him being a good scientist and unjustified victim.

[snowwrestler]

You're wasting your time conversing with the parent. Mann is a good scientist and there is no credible evidence otherwise.

But let's say the parent could discredit Mann and erase 100% of his research output tomorrow. It would not change the scientific theory of climate change one bit because so many other scientists have now confirmed Mann's findings.

The politics of personal attacks don't work against science because nature is what it is. Once we know something about nature, tearing some guy down personally does not wipe out that knowledge.

But since the attack against Mann is a political campaign run by political operatives (note the link to Tucker Carlson's site the Daily Caller), they don't know any better.

[jbelich]

highly respected news organizations don't have access to the bowels of Old Main. Current and former trustees, current and former student government members, current and former campus activists, on the other hand, have been compiling things at least as long as my time at PSU in the 90s.

[ari_elle]

Certainly if you are so sure about this you can at least point out some source on the web where this is explained in more detail? [The web is big]

I don't want to be rude, nor is it the case that i don't believe you.

[jbelich]

Here's one, written by a very close friend of mine:

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/19/autopsy-of-an-innocent-man...

[ari_elle]

Thank you :)