[PlatoIsADisease]

Recent?

They have been last to get Widgets. They don't have apps I use (terminals, emulators, pulse wave generators). Not to mention Gemini AI is actually really nice for scanning a screen and doing actions with it.

Apple is always 2nd place or worse. Except marketing, they are #1.

[karlshea]

"Quality" and "features you happen to want" are two different things.

[metabagel]

Their hardware is world class. Software? Not so much.

[soperj]

They sold the Macbook air with Broadwell processors for over 3 years. They only changed the processors because intel discontinued them. They skipped 3 generations of processors.

[wtallis]

It would also be fair to say they didn't skip any generation of processors with that gap in updates, they merely sat out the first two years of Intel shipping Skylake five years in a row.

And in the meantime, they did use those first two years of Skylake for the 12" MacBook; the next update to the MacBook Air was after the last update the 12" MacBook ever got. For a while, the 12" MacBook was the more premium, thinner and lighter alternative to the MacBook Air with more advanced technology (and could plausibly have been construed as the intended successor to the MacBook Air), then in 2018 they merged back together with the introduction of the first MacBook Air with a Retina Display.

[soperj]

I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here.

They sold old hardware for the same price 3 years later as if it was a premium product. They didn't really have an excuse, they've been the most valuable public company on earth since like 2010.

[wtallis]

Selling an old model for a few years after its replacement shows up is not unusual. The only thing unusual here is that the 12" MacBook didn't end up actually replacing the MacBook Air in the long run, and the next major iteration went back to being called "MacBook Air".

The three-year gap in processor updates you're complaining about disappears when you recognize the 12" MacBook as an attempt to move the product line in a different direction, which Apple partially backtracked on after a few years. That course correction was quite a bit quicker than for the Touch Bar MBPs and the trash can Mac Pro.

[soperj]

> disappears when you recognize the 12" MacBook as an attempt to move the product line in a different direction, which Apple partially backtracked on after a few years.

and if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle. As far as I can glean this was never something that they intended to do.

[PlatoIsADisease]

What do you mean? For a phone? Are people doing anything on a phone that you can't do on an Android? Be realistic, not idealistic or giving test situations that no one actually uses.

On desktop? Uh... There is a reason Nvidia is #1. Wake me up when I can get Nvidia on Apple.