[Herring]

Most US companies are run like tiny little fascist dictatorships, which is a great training ground for the real thing. Contrast eg Norway, where businesses operate inside of a formal 3-way agreement (Trepartssamarbeidet) between the government, employers associations, and trade unions.

It's going to take probably a few rounds of fascism and many millions dead before Americans widely decide to change the fundamental nature of business.

[_DeadFred_]

Capitalist companies are just the modern day evolution of feudal lords with the mandate of maximum value extraction with zero care for the impacts on your fiefdom/market, the tendency to drift to rent seeking, etc.

Instead of Normans organizing a raiding party for lands, you have Normans renamed as Capitalists organizing a raiding party for a target market, just now in the modern world they also get to offload the burdens of population governance, risk, infrastructure, housing, healthcare, retirement security, training, and social stability.

The Capitalists even named their raiding party using the military term 'Company' and organize its power structure in the same militaristic way, with the leader accountable to them and not the people under/the workers.

[palmotea]

> Capitalist companies are just the modern day evolution of feudal lords with the mandate of maximum value extraction with zero care for the impacts on your fiefdom/market, the tendency to drift to rent seeking, etc.

Actually, I'd argue capitalist companies are often worse, because at least feudal lord has more interest in ensuring the long-term viability of their fief. In capitalism its not uncommon for some investor to come in, wreck the place's long-term viability for short-term profit, then sell before the other shoe drops.

[palmotea]

> Contrast eg Norway, where businesses operate inside of a formal 3-way agreement (Trepartssamarbeidet) between the government, employers associations, and trade unions.

> It's going to take probably a few rounds of fascism and many millions dead before Americans widely decide to change the fundamental nature of business.

I don't agree. I think what's needed is to break the delusion that every American is a capitalist-lord-in-waiting, so they delusionally think and vote in ways that harm their interests (see, software engineers excited about AI and advocating for its adoption).

Also cut down the noise. The "culture wars" (from both sides) are very effective at distracting people from more fundamental issues. I really think one party needs to drop all that, and focus narrowly on representing the common people as workers.