[anonymous908213]

I am not signing up to a mini-moderator who has to e-mail dang 5 times a day. I want to not see these messages in the first place, and for that to be possible, the community needs to learn and be able to recognise this for themselves so this spam can be flagged and killed on sight.

If the bot owner happens to waste their time reading the responses to the dozens of comments one of their many spambots made, and improves the bots as a result, so be it. They're already winning the war as it stands, not like things can get much worse. I'd like to at least try to make an effort to make things better.

Maybe the actual answer is that I just need to stop using HN, though, since the spambots are taking over the site and yet people are more concerned with the people pointing that out than the actual problem.

[dang]

Thanks - this was a good catch, and it makes steam come out my ears to see any account abusing HN like that.

You don't have to email us, of course! But please understand that we're on the same side. We don't want to see HN overrun by generated comments (a form of spam) any more than you, or other users do. Remember that tomhow and I were avid users of HN for many years before we became mods.

All: generated comments and bots aren't allowed here. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que.... If you notice an account that appears to be consistently pattern-matching to this, and have a minute to let us know, we'd appreciate a heads-up at [e-mail]. We don't come close to seeing everything that gets posted here, but we do monitor the inbox closely (including fishing through the spam bin for real users) and we take these reports seriously.

[basilikum]

As someone very engaged in reading HackerNews comments I observed that your comment and the comment you are replying to have that exact same format of three short paragraphs.

The people behind these bots most certainly found that many engaging, authentic comments follow this clever pattern. It is also worth noting that such comments are remarkably digestible – due to their brevity and decomposition into even smaller logical and lexical parts – and swiftly read, requiring only a very short attention span and little intellectual investment from the reader.

This makes me very curious about the statistics on how HackerNews comments are structured and how well different formats of comments perform in the community. I would be thrilled to dive into the data and might write a neat program to analyze this sharing the results with the community.

[dang]

The data you'd need for that is all available through both the HN Firebase API (which is a bit antiquated) and Algolia's HN Search API. If you find anything interesting, definitely let us know!

[anonymous908213]

Incidentally, both comments were edited after the fact. Neither my nor Dang's comment were originally of this length but we both made edits that ended up there. I did notice the irony :)

[pierrec]

OK, I sent the email myself. You don't have to do it. Just once, not 5 times per day. Agree about community awareness, but I think emailing the mods is more effective than responding to one of the 1000 comments this account is making.

[dang]

Thanks for doing that because I had no idea this was happening. I've banned the account now and flagkilled the 30+ comments they posted today.

[em-bee]

you missed one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46998241 ;-P

two actually: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46988519

[dang]

Those were killed. What made you think they weren't?

[em-bee]

i most certainly saw them as neither dead or flagged.

now i see three other comments as alive:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46997839 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46996890 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46992786

i know they were flagged and dead before.

i can make a screenshot.

could those comments be reactivated because people vouch for them? or is there some kind of bug?

[dang]

That's right—some users vouched for those 3 after we'd killed them.

That makes sense, because if you look at individual posts in isolation you might think they were unfairly killed. One needs to look at the posting history of the account as a whole to understand what the issue was.

(Btw, thanks for explaining the context in those other threads.)