[thaway123123]

Is this for their in-house development or for their consulting services?

Because the latter would still be indicative of AI hurting entry level hiring since it may signal that other firms are not really willing to hire a full time entry level employee whose job may be obsoleted by AI, and paying for a consultant from IBM may be a lower risk alternative in case AI doesn't pan out.

[raw_anon_1111]

And if it is for consulting, I doubt very serious they will based in the US. You can’t be priced competitive hiring an entry level consultant in the US and no company is willing to pay the bill rate for US based entry level consultants unless their email address is @amazon.com or @google.com.

Source: current (full time) staff consultant at a third party cloud consulting firm and former consultant (full time) at Amazon.

[xenospn]

Why would Amazon bring on a full-time consultant instead of just hiring you?

[raw_anon_1111]

I worked internally at AWS Professional Services - their internal consulting department - every AWS ProServe employee is a “blue badge” employee with the same initial four year offer structure of base + prorated signing bonus + RSUs (5/15/40/40). Google also has a large internal consulting department for GCP.

I can’t fault you for not knowing AWS ProServe exists. I didn’t know either until a recruiter reached out to me.

[Insanity]

My partner is also a consultant and one client was Google. I’m also confused about the exact reason why they didn’t just hire someone.

[roenxi]

"You see we leased this back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account."

~ Monty Python, Meaning of Line (1983), on The Machine that Goes Ping.

[raw_anon_1111]

No that’s not what I meant at all. Amazon Professional Services are made up of full time “blue badge” employees who get the same type of base + bonus + RSUs that all other blue badge employees get.

[kjkjadksj]

One might ask what value seniors hold if their expertise of the junior stage is obsolete. Maybe the new junior will just be reigning in llm that does the work and senior level knowledge and compensation rots away as those people retire without replacement.

[lazide]

Huh?

[kjkjadksj]

People seem to think LLMs killing the cs career means companies will still pay senior salaries to shepherd agentic LLM style development. I think it is the senior that is the dinosaur here. As we speak cs curriculums are changing to teach people to cruch along with ai. The next batch of juniors will be taking these jobs. There won’t be seniors anymore at least at the salaries we’ve come to assume with that. The skill is getting removed from the profession and replaced with a framework with a far lower barrier of entry.

[lazide]

Bwahahahahahaha

There is no framework, just confusing junk. At some point, it needs to actually work and….

[kjkjadksj]

Glueing the junk together is what the bengaluru office is for. You don’t need bay area comp for that.

[lazide]

‘at some point it needs to actually work’….