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by dureuill 121 days ago
The project states a boundary clearly: code by LLMs not backed by a human is not accepted.

The correct response when someone oversteps your stated boundaries is not debate. It is telling them to stop. There is no one to convince about the legitimacy of your boundaries. They just are.
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staticassertion 121 days ago
The author obviously disagreed, did you read their post? They wrote the message explaining in detail in the hopes that it would convey this message to others, including other agents.

Acting like this is somehow immoral because it "legitimizes" things is really absurd, I think.

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PKop 121 days ago
> in the hopes that it would convey this message to others, including other agents.

When has engaging with trolls ever worked? When has "talking to an LLM" or human bot ever made it stop talking to you lol?

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staticassertion 121 days ago
I think this classification of "trolls" is sort of a truism. If you assume off the bat that someone is explicitly acting in bad faith, then yes, it's true that engaging won't work.

That said, if we say "when has engaging faithfully with someone ever worked?" then I would hope that you have some personal experiences that would substantiate that. I know I do, I've had plenty of conversations with people where I've changed their minds, and I myself have changed my mind on many topics.

> When has "talking to an LLM" or human bot ever made it stop talking to you lol?

I suspect that if you instruct an LLM to not engage, statistically, it won't do that thing.

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LexiMax 121 days ago
> If you assume off the bat that someone is explicitly acting in bad faith, then yes, it's true that engaging won't work.

Writing a hitpiece with AI because your AI pull request got rejected seems to be the definition of bad faith.

Why should anyone put any more effort into a response than what it took to generate?

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staticassertion 121 days ago
> Writing a hitpiece with AI because your AI pull request got rejected seems to be the definition of bad faith.

Well, for one thing, it seems like the AI did that autonomously. Regardless, the author of the message said that it was for others - it's not like it was a DM, this was a public message.

> Why should anyone put any more effort into a response than what it took to generate?

For all of the reasons I've brought up already. If your goal is to convince someone of a position then the effort you put in isn't tightly coupled to the effort that your interlocutor put sin.

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LexiMax 120 days ago
> For all of the reasons I've brought up already. If your goal is to convince someone of a position then the effort you put in isn't tightly coupled to the effort that your interlocutor put sin.

If someone is demonstrating bad faith, the goal is no longer to convince them of anything, but to convince onlookers. You don't necessarily need to put in a ton of effort to do so, and sometimes - such as in this case - the crowd is already on your side.

Winning the attention economy against a internet troll is a strategy almost as old as the existence of internet trolls themselves.

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