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by bigbadfeline 120 days ago
There's only one way to resolve this - datacenters to build their own energy generation, not connected to the grid, just local. Otherwise, they'll muddy the water to no end until they manage to saddle the rest of us with their energy costs.
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The muddied water is just supply and demand. If a datacenter increases demand for electricians, natural gas, solar panels, copper, whatever else, then the price will have to go up. The only thing that can bring prices down in the face of increased demand is increased supply.

The demand is still there, connected to the grid or not. The grid can help make things more efficient and resilient in some ways (and less resilient in other ways), which is why the grid came about in the first place.

> The only thing that can bring prices down in the face of increased demand is increased supply.

That's not the question, we aren't discussing trivialities like what change of supply is necessary for satisfying increased demand, that's like discussing "is water wet" or "do you need more or less water to satisfy your thirst for water".

The real question is Who is going to pay for building the additional supply?

Residential and other prior customers have already paid the capex for the existing supply and now you want them to pay the capex for enormous amounts of new capacity which the AI corps convert exclusively into their own revenue.

The public is already paying through the nose for new semiconductor capacity because the same scam-geniuses cornered the RAM, GPU and related chips market and they are mercilessly scalping it too, again at the expense of the public.

> The grid can help make things more efficient and resilient in some ways

In a perfect world it can, in this world it makes things more unstable and far more unfair when large new consumers use it for their exclusive revenue extraction while pretending that the new capacity is somehow benefiting everybody instead of just them.

> The muddied water is just supply and demand.

Indeed, "just supply and demand" is the mud in the eyes.