[stinkbeetle]

> Rest assured that the UK would have damaged manufacturing and living standards regardless of renewables. It is just too complicated and expensive to build things. That not only damages the things you mentioned but renewables, gas and nuclear deployment.

High energy prices unquestionably make most primary and manufacturing production less competitive, and they reduce living standards. What are you even trying to say?

> But yeah bet against the Chinese solar and battery industries. And bet in favour of cheap plentiful gas in northern Europe.

This does not address what I wrote.

[7952]

I was trying to say that high energy costs are just one issue. And even then renewables are not the root cause of high energy costs.

[stinkbeetle]

> I was trying to say that high energy costs are just one issue.

The one issue we were discussing.

> And even then renewables are not the root cause of high energy costs.

There is rarely one single root cause of anything. Renewables have certainly caused higher costs and worse service in some cases. I don't know the specifics of the UK, but you could argue the point with the above poster who said gas was cheaper.

[7952]

I do know the specifics of the UK and that is what was being discussed here. But yeah dismissing anything that doesn't align with an easily argued point seems foolish to me.