[shimman]

Seriously, it took nearly ~150 years before the people actually benefited from the industrial revolution. Saying that we need to condemn two lifetimes worth of suffering to benefit literally a few thousand people out of billions is absolutely ludicrous.

[wiseowise]

But think about corporate aristocracy and their children!

[munksbeer]

This is basically not true. It's hard to debate this when we don't start from a position of truth.

[shimman]

It pretty much is, unless you think it's totally cool to work in highly dangerous jobs that paid poorly while being treated like chattel slaves. There is a reason why the 1800s had the most violent labor actions in the US, it wasn't because they were treated "well."

Completely disingenuous, learn your labor history.

[munksbeer]

People didn't feel the benefits for 150 years? Just absolute nonsense.