[baseballdork]

Not sure how you reconcile this take with "People don't like being robbed, PERIOD, especially not to pay for a bunch of weed smokers to sit at home relaxing on their dime. There will be blood."

This person doesn't like taxation. Tough.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

Ah, missed that. For what it's worth, I can kinda read that sentence both ways but it does seem easier to read as being anti-tax. Actually, taking the two quotes juxtaposed like this, their take reads quite a lot like "think of the third-world laborers" in defense of billionaires.

Edit:

Oh, and their reply.

[baseballdork]

I still cannot see how you get that impression.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

I don't see much of a point in replying with this comment. It reads like your point is "I don't understand your perspective so it must be wrong", which is folly.

If you're looking for a suggestion of how to gain such an understanding, I've certainly got one of those: put more effort into arguing in favor of perspectives you disagree with. Not only will it help you to understand the disagreeable point of view, it will additionally help you to strengthen your beliefs.

I appreciate the added context nonetheless.

[baseballdork]

I’m looking for you to back up your perspective with context in this thread that gave you that perspective.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

You must have missed it but I already did that; it's in my initial comment.

[baseballdork]

You're right, I completely forgot about what you put in that first comment because it seemed like extremely wishful thinking, bordering on gaslighting. Then, given all the comments since then that have been explicitly about taxation, I assumed that you had reassessed and had something new to contribute given how thoroughly those new comments debunked those original statements. Oh well.

[its_magic]

Your perspective is you want to take my hard-earned money and give it to some pothead to sit at home and "do artwork."

My perspective is I'd rather keep my weed money to myself.

And that's exactly what I shall do. Want to fight about it?

Your plans to rob society even more than your ilk already do are selfish, idiotic, and will end in ruin--deservedly so.

I have spoken.

[komali2]

Someone built the road to your house. Someone built the road to that road, and the road to that road, and the only reason the grocery store nearest you exists is because of this network of roads and people living near these roads that makes the region valuable enough to bother putting a grocery store in.

The libertarians in New Hampshire tried the ultra libertarianism you seem to be pitching here and it resulted in two things: unquenched fires, and bear attacks.

Trying to separate yourself completely from your responsibility to society is foolhardy. It hurts you more than it hurts us.

[its_magic]

It's a "he", not a "they", FYI. In case you were considering actually addressing its thoughts, rather than attacking some ridiculous strawman.

[lcnPylGDnU4H9OF]

Do you think I did not address your thoughts in my initial reply? Do you think you are addressing others' thoughts and not attacking ridiculous men made of straw? You do not seem to be making a good case for yourself.

[its_magic]

"You're not making a very good case for yourself," says the armed robber.

[its_magic]

Jesus Christ didn't like taxation either. He preached that it was theft also. That's one big reason why they murdered him, then sent Paul (aka Saul) along to invent a new 'explanation' of the Parable of the Coin more favorable to the Roman viewpoint.

Regardless of whatever pretense you put on, you are in fact a member of a gang of thieves plotting to rob your next victim, just as Lysander Spooner explained in the 1800s:

  "If any man's money can be taken by a so-called government, without his own personal consent, all his other rights are taken with it; for with his money the government can (and will) hire soldiers to stand over him, compel him to submit to its arbitrary will, and kill him if he resists." - Lysander Spooner

  "If taxation without consent is robbery, the United States government has never had, has not now, and is never likely to have, an honest dollar in its treasury. If taxation without consent is not robbery, then any band of robbers have only to declare themselves a government, and all their robberies are legalized." - Lysander Spooner

  "The Rothschilds, and that class of money-lenders of whom they are the representatives and agents -- men who never think of lending a shilling to their next-door neighbors for purposes of honest industry, unless upon the most ample security, and at the highest rate of interest -- stand ready at all times to lend money in unlimited amounts to those robbers and murderers who call themselves governments, to be expended in shooting down those who do not submit quietly to being robbed and enslaved." - Lysander Spooner

  "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." - Lysander Spooner

Hint: We are now in the "raising of the spirits of the dead" phase of prophecy; the above being an example of what is meant by that phrase. You Are Here.

[baseballdork]

I guess I'm confused why I ought to care what Christ or Spooner think about taxation?

[its_magic]

In time you will learn the importance of respecting the lives of others.

[baseballdork]

I’m not sure why you believe I don’t

[its_magic]

The subject of this conversation is your desire to rob me.

[baseballdork]

No, it's about your viewpoint on taxation and how it's a pointless task to try and reason with a person that takes that stance. "Respecting the lives of others" doesn't preclude taxation to any rational person.