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by diggyhole 120 days ago
Or do you hate that their politics don't align with yours?
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Everyone should hate people that believe in undemocratic principles.
Hot take: what has democracy done for us lately? Besides re-electing Donald Trump?

If something can't go on forever, it will eventually stop. That applies to any system that gives stupid people the same political voice as the rest of the electorate. I mean, it seems kind of obvious, doesn't it?

Ask yourself which class can gain something by having trump as president rather than any other democrat

(it's not the working class)

Exactly. So why'd the "working class" vote for him?
Because the ones owning social medias, newspapers (and whatnot) pushed heavily for it
And why did they give up their agency to these shadowy media oligarchs...?

Answer: because they're stupid.

The ones who weren't stupid were impossible to herd to the polls, or at least a lot more difficult. As a result they were outnumbered. Any system that removes the influences you cite will leave the same stupid voters in place, ready to fall for the next con man who comes along.

The problem isn't the money. The problem is the power. I'm tired of giving stupid people so much power over my life.

>what has democracy done for us lately? Besides re-electing Donald Trump?

You have the order backwards. This is their exact strategy; spend decades breaking government then have the breakers say "see? government is broken!". Lack of functioning democracy got us Donald Trump.

Why do you think this year they are so gung ho on trying to disenfranchise voters for a midterm? Because they know they are cooked if democracy starts to work again. If nothing else, Mamdami's 6 weeks show exactly how a "government that works for its people" can work. Let's keep pushing for that.

I hate that their politic's explicit goal is to make my, yours, and everyone else's lives actively worse. Government is not a business.

We're not getting better healthcare, more and better jobs, more efficient transportation, better city infrastructure, nor more houses. We aren't even getting the cool things shown in cyberpunk dystopias. Hell, we can't even ask for them to follow the law these days.

Why would I want to support them getting into politics? There's a difference betweeen them having different thoughts on how fund, say, self drving cars (which I'm not a fan of) and then all of that above.

it's that their money buys outsized influence and erodes the concept of democracy
Nah, I don't even know what Garry's politics are. I hate that there's so much money in politics in general.
Fair enough.
Their very existence doesn't align with my politics, or any decent person's politics for that matter.
Smart, successful people offering products and services that lots of people want does not align with your politics? What are your politics?
>What are your politics?

how about not protecting child diddlers as a bare bones start? That's not even the "on the ground" bare minimum; we're still stuck in the hole.

But let's try to meet 1% of the way first and take baby steps, okay?

People extracting value from labor to enrich themselves at the expense of society and then using those riches to further corrupt society, to the point where a few dudes own most of the country does not align with my politics.

That's why I'm a socialist and I would invite anyone who thinks things might not be going in the right direction to consider that as well.