[nullbyte]

I specifically do not use the CN/SG based original provider simply because I don't want my personal data traveling across the pacific. I try to only stay on US providers. Openrouter shows you what the quantization of each provider is, so you can choose a domestic one that's FP8 if you want

[sschueller]

Funny, living in Europe, I prefer using EU and Chinese hosts because as I don't want my data going to the US.

The trust in US firms and state is completely gone.

[mycall]

Living in the US, my trust in US firms and state is also completely gone. My only hope is local LLMs.

[lostmsu]

Tangent note: this sounds like the same mistake as EU's reliance on Russia.

[lossolo]

Not really. China doesn't share a border with us, doesn't claim any EU territory, and didn't historically rule our lands the way the USSR did. In the context of spheres of influence and security interests, its strategic goals aren't directly at odds with the EU's core interests.

[lostmsu]

EU is not a singular country, and Germany or France don't border Russia either.

Considering China is ok to supply Russia, I don't see how your second point has any standing either.

[lossolo]

> EU is not a singular country, and Germany or France don't border Russia either.

But soon they could, that's the problem.

> Considering China is ok to supply Russia, I don't see how your second point has any standing either.

Supply? China supplies Ukraine too. Ukraine's drone sector runs heavily on Chinese supply chains. And if China really wanted to supply Russia, the war would likely be over by now, Russia would have taken all of Ukraine.