[rglullis]

Oh, can we do Civilization next?

[rkozik1989]

You do know we're hemorrhaging and lot of finite resources to play these games badly, right? We're basically at laying on chaise lounge being fed grapes levels of hedonism. Make me a racist meme that copyright infringes multiple IP holders and when you're done play Sim City at competency level of a blind man.

[deaux]

You say this any time someone drives an ICE for fun? Eats a beef burger? Buys clothes they don't need? Or the worst of all, takes their 2nd vacation by airplane of the year?

Let me lower the bar - have you asked any of the above to random people you don't know well for a combined total of more than twice in your life?

If so, hats off to you, respect. That takes some courage.

If not, which seems to be the case in 99.99% of cases where people pretend to care about the environmental impact of AI, man up and stop making a mockery of those who do care about the environment and have made personal sacrifices for it.

> meme that copyright infringes multiple IP holders

Oh no, how will Disney ever get over this!

[staticshock]

I think the way to see this as the organic process of discovering hard-to-game benchmarks. The loop is:

1. People discover things LLMs can kind of do, but very poorly.

2. Frontier labs sample these discoveries and incorporate them into benchmarks to monitor internally.

3. Next generation model improves on said benchmarks, and the improvements generalize to improvements on loosely correlated real world tasks.