[Juliate]

I guess so, but they still seem confused:

> Job's level of success. We never hear about them.

Success != hearing about it.

You don't hear or know about most people success, or failure, for that matter; even huge ones. You know about a very small subset of these. That's fame.

And I'm just not sure that "being a found of a billion+ dollar company" was what Jobs considered his own success; but a consequence or aside part of it. Actually, no one knows but him.

[glimshe]

What you're saying makes sense, I just think GP wanted to say something else entirely and borrowed the word "success" for that.

You do hear about people making it big and creating profitable companies (one possible definition of "success")... But how many of these founders nowadays are hippie-like figures with a multidisciplinary education? Not that many, if any.

[Juliate]

> I just think GP wanted to say something else entirely and borrowed the word "success" for that.

That was precisely my point in my initial response.