[Hikikomori]

There's also ATMs from Euronet that are conveniently placed in tourist areas that refuses to pay out Euro if you have a Euro card, you can only get money if you do an exchange and they do a 15% or so on top of a fixed rate. Also do things like charge for checking balance on account and don't tell you about before its done.

Its an American company.

[ericmay]

> Its an American company.

Thankfully though a lot of times these ATMs and such are avoided by American tourists because....we just use a credit card.

By the way, those fees are split with other folks. For example you might find that American Euronext ATM in a shopping plaza or outside of a storefront. Those European businesses are getting a cut of that exchange rate.

[Hikikomori]

Like we dont have credit/debit cards in Europe? I haven't had to use cash for 15-20 years or so, but also don't have a credit card.

Doesn't really help if they only take cash, which is still common in Germany for example, but gotten a lot better in the last decade.

Ok so the scam is shared, great.

[ericmay]

> Like we dont have credit/debit cards in Europe?

I didn't suggest otherwise?

> Ok so the scam is shared, great.

Yea, just making sure we're all aware that Europeans are positively complicit in this scam.

[Hikikomori]

>because....we just use a credit card.

Implying we could or would not.

[ericmay]

> There's also ATMs from Euronet that are conveniently placed in tourist areas

I wasn't implying that Europeans can't use credit cards. We were talking about tourists using credit cards versus cash.