[doctoboggan]

@dang with the launch of open claw I have seen so much more LLM slop comments. I know meta comments like mine aren't usually encouraged, but I think we need to do something about this as a community. Is there anything we can do? (either ban or at least requiring full disclosure for bot comments would be nice).

EDIT: I suspect the current "solution" is to just downvote (which I do!), but I think people who don't chat with LLMs daily might not recognize their telltale signs so I often see them highly upvoted.

Maybe that means people want LLM comments here, but it severely changes the tone and vibe of this site and I would like to at least have the community make that choice consciously rather than just slowly slide into the slop era.

[Zacharias030]

Parent comment has the rhythm of an AI comment. Caught myself not realizing it until you mentioned it. Seems like I am more in tune with LLM slop on twitter, which is usually much worse. But on second sight it's clear and it also shows the comment as having no stance, and very generic.

@dang I would welcome a small secondary button that one can vote on to community-driven mark a comment as AI, just so we know.

[gabriel-uribe]

The moltbook-ification of every online forum seems inevitable this year. I wish we had a counter to this.

[neom]

I've been thinking about this, one solution I wonder if to put a really hard problem in the sigh up flow that humans couldn't solve, if it's solve in the signup, it's a bot, not sure how tf to actually basically captchas flip, however I suspect this would only work for so long.

[sebmellen]

It's the dead internet theory in action. Every time I see slop I comment on it. I've found people don't always like it when you comment on it.

[doctoboggan]

Yes I usually just bite my tongue and downvote, but with the launch of open claw I think the amount of slop has increased dramatically and I think we need to deal with it sooner than later.

[sebmellen]

Do you really think openclaw is to blame? I shudder to think of how few protections HN has against bots like that.

[fblp]

Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't catch that the parent comment was ai either and upvoted it. Changed it to a downvote seeing your comment and realizing it the comment did indeed have many AI flags.

[ijidak]

Nothing about the parent comment suggests AI, except the em dash, but that's just a regular old punctuation that predates AI.

[doctoboggan]

How much experience do you have interacting with LLM generated prose? The comment I replied to sets off so many red flags that I would be willing to stake a lot on it being completely LLM generated.

It's not just the em dashes - its the cadence, tone and structure of the whole comment.

[toraway]

Yeah it's really frustrating how often I see kneejerk rebuttals assuming others are solely basing it on presence of em-dashes. That's usually a secondary data point. The obvious tells are more often structure/cadence as you say and by far most importantly: a clear pattern of repeated similar "AI smell" comments in their history that make it 100% obvious.

[clbrmbr]

I didn’t catch it until seeing these flag-raising comments… checking the other comments from the last 8 hours, it’s Claw for sure.

[drc500free]

Punchy sentence. Punchy sentence. It's not A, it's B.

The actual insight isn't C, it's D.