[FranklinJabar]

> You don't realize this type of thinking is exactly what contributes to the "civil war"?

Of course. But we need meaning and values in our lives, both of which have been absent from politics my entire life. At some point we're due for course correction, or I can't bear to live here anymore.

> if you're even slightly for some sort of immigration enforcement you're labeled as not being "pro humanity" or whatever, and then a populist gets in power because the other side's rallying cry is "there's no illegal on stolen land".

Both of these people are liberals detached from reality. The opposing side would stand for better material conditions for everyone.