[RegnisGnaw]

The answer is that most people don't care if it benefits them. My Tesla has 6 cameras recording full time when driving and parked, but it benefits me so I enable it. It saved me $1000+ (my deductible and possible rise in insurance rates) when someone hit my car while parked at Costco (they drove off but Sentry Mode caught them).

[rubiquity]

If you’d like the opposite of this story: I was reversing out of a parking spot. I had moved about 2 feet and a drunk driver hit and ran my vehicle. The driver was charged by police because driving at 40mph and hitting cars in a shopping center in broad daylight got a lot of attention.

I gave the video footage from my car to local police and insurance company and the insurance companies ruled I was at fault because I was in reverse.

[4d4m]

Hey thanks for sharing. I'd like to apologize for everyone below not getting the point - not understanding that these things cut both ways, and can often have unintended effects even for those enabling extra cameras for no measurable outcome for themselves. It's an incredible highlight you shared!

Sorry about your car :(

[twostorytower]

This is why I always back into parking spots. If I never have to back out, I'll never be at fault!

[gruez]

What if you need to load groceries in the trunk/back?

[BloodyIron]

You open the trunk and put it in. And leave enough room behind your vehicle to do that, which is available in _every_ parking spot.

[gruez]

Right, but unless the parking spots are extra spacious, or your car is extra small, you won't be able to park your cart next to your trunk, and you have to ferry the contents of the cart from the front of your car to the trunk.

[macintux]

Or do what I do, and also makes backing in (or pulling through) easier: park further away.

Obviously not an option for everyone, for a variety of reasons.

[BloodyIron]

Yes you can. I do it every day. Get better at driving.

[mv4]

fyi Tesla employees were caught accessing private videos.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sens...

[4d4m]

interesting!

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/05/...

[mv4]

yes, cloud-based surveillance systems are inherently risky (sometimes due to lack of internal guardrails).

[apt-apt-apt-apt]

Did that result in a hit-and-run charge for them?

[RegnisGnaw]

The Tesla Sentry Mode only got their license plate in footage. They hit my parked car as they were backing out of their spot. I was able to go after their insurance to fix it.

Since I didn’t capture who was driving, the police didn’t charge them with hit and run.

[ooterness]

So you gave up everyone's privacy for no benefit at all?

[beAbU]

You can't have privacy when out in public!! No-one's privacy was given up here because no-one here was engaging in private acts, since all of them were in the public.

[alex43578]

The privacy of being in a parking lot, surrounded by a dozen other cameras from a myriad of businesses, in public?

[SkyPuncher]

Not sure, the point.

People generally aren't complaining about home owners mounting cameras for themselves (the car is no different). A 3rd party combining the interconnected nature of their system into a holistic system with sweeping coverage is much different than a single person figuring out who hit their car.

[seanmcdirmid]

It would be nice for neighborhood cameras to timely alert neighbors when a porch pirate was on the prowl in their neighborhood. I get the privacy implications, but after having a few packages stolen one might just not care anymore.

Since police absolutely have no care about porch pirates where i live, I rig my camera to turn up a siren for 10 seconds (using a homekit power plug) when it sees someone near my townhome after 11PM (this is enough to usually scare them off to easier pickings). It wouldn't be so bad if the kids bedroom wasn't on the first floor and we are on the third, but it is what it is. At least its only really bad in late spring and summer, the only time when Seattle's long rainy season comes in useful.

Its too bad that I can't bike in Seattle anymore, the theft situation just makes it too unbearable (and probably why you see fewer people biking these days even though they are dumping lots of money into biking infrastructure). Think what we could do with cameras like we've done with apple tags to ramp down bike theft (then again, police don't care, and people aren't ready to go vigilante here).

[RegnisGnaw]

Their insurance paid for the repairs to my car and a rental for the duration. Otherwise I would've had to go through my insurance ($1000 deductible) + possible rise in rates.

[Omatic810]

I don't think a Costco parking lot provides any reasonable expectation of privacy to be given up.

[DangitBobby]

I think there should be more than one standard. "Reasonable expectation of privacy" is usually used to dismiss people's concerns about constant surveillance. Let's stop being complicit in public surveillance.

[stalfosknight]

You do not have a reasonable expectation of privacy in a public space and it is absurd to suggest that people should/could.

[seanmcdirmid]

proper blame assignment is its own reward, at least the offending party's insurance rates increased (assuming they had insurance).

[RegnisGnaw]

And their insurance paid for the whole repair and car rental. No deductible for me and my increase on my insurance.

[4d4m]

admission is tough

[fn-mote]

Just wait until you go to a Walmart and they have a portable surveillance tower set up in the parking lot.

[BloodyIron]

Thanks for recording me without my consent just because I walked past your car parked. /s