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by throw20251220 130 days ago
Why would I condemn people who were wiped by your ancestors? They were the locals, you’re just… temporary. You don’t even care for the land!
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There is no single "the locals", every tribe represented a different polity. They warred with each other constantly and conquered and took over land all the time. There is no part of the continent that is held by the original human that arrived here first. Every part has been conquered and reconquered many times. The Europeans are just the latest conquerors. Except in the cases where they literally bought the land. Which also happened.
Sure. It still doesn’t change the fact that their ancestors performed a genocide on the natives.
This hikkerl idiot really thinks downvotes are "censorship" and immigration is murderous genocide lmfao. Just how hilariously fucked in the head this hikkerl entity you are trying to talk to is lmfao.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46906678

It turns out they were temporary too, as they were not able to defend their lands. Now we are the locals.

Again, unless you are going to condemn them for any attempt made in their defence, then you can't condemn us. Be consistent, else it's just plain racism.

Side note: if you think ICE is brutal you should read what early European settlers had to endure...

> Side note: if you think ICE is brutal you should read what early European settlers had to endure...

Or what those settlers made others endure?

Again, if you're going to condemn Europeans for any actions committed in the course of colonisation and support the natives' right to violent defence of their territory, then you must also grant the current custodians of the territory the right to violent defence against illegal immigrants whose heinous crimes against our people make for often-shocking headlines.
Yes, and just like we will eventually be displaced (violently or not) by new arrivals as well, since "might makes right," correct?

It's just how it goes: white settlers kick brown (Indian descended with some European blood) Mexicans off their land, later brown Mexican descendants jump border into the USA to get that land back, white settler descendants kick them away again but demographics means those white settler descendants are going to get displaced one way or the other.

The math of growth curves doesn't lie. Trump is just a last racist hurrah for what was and what isn't meant to be anylonger.