[llm_nerd]

This isn't archive.org. Archive.is (and its many TLD equivalents) is explicitly for bypassing paywalls like this, and this is absolutely the intended use.

9 times out of ten it's because sites use cloaking and serve up all of the contents to search bots, but then paywall out end users, so it's kind of a hoisted by their own petard kind of situation.

And, I mean, people can choose to not follow those links. To the rest of us they're often very welcome, and we aren't subscribing to every random site for the once in a millennia worthwhile article.

[nullc]

> is explicitly for bypassing paywalls like this

The site existed for most of a decade before it had any particular paywall bypassing. It's an ondemand archival site that saves the DOM in such a way that redisplay is faithful, unlike archive.org.

It's a key resource in court cases for purely archival purposes and the fact that it bypasses paywalls is essential for its archival purpose to function.

[llm_nerd]

Yeah, sure (sarcastic). And people mostly use torrents to share Linux distros.

The site/org has no office and is anonymously run virtually. Exists on random, essentially free for all TLDs, does not honour take-down requests, does not respect robots.txt, masquerades as the Googlebot...

...yeah, I happen to have not been born yesterday so I'm not going to play along with a fiction.

[ImPostingOnHN]

Nothing you said contradicts the post you responded to, so there's no need to be rude (e.g. sarcasm) or adversarial here. You are both correct.

[llm_nerd]

Nothing I said was rude or adversarial, so not sure why you decided to be rude and adversarial here.

My sarcasm was to the purported original goal, when it has always, since day one, been a fake Googlebot known, again since day 1, as a circumvention of paywalls for sites that cloak.

[ImPostingOnHN]

well if you declare that nothing you said was rude (i.e. no sarcasm, which is rude) or adversarial, then I similarly declare that nothing I said claimed otherwise :) so what are you talking about, then?

[razingeden]

That’s nice. I’m still not giving the NYT my email or a dime.