[decimalenough]

> If you don’t think the US security apparatus will come up with a reasonable plan

Have you seen the US security apparatus's track record at coming up with reasonable plans for what happens after the military victory? See Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

[petesergeant]

I mean these things sit on opposite ends of the “organising a pissup in a brewery” to “teaching a fish to ride a bike” continuum.