[neilwilson]

So immigrants earn so little they can’t put aside any savings? Or somebody is. Not the flex Cato thinks it is.

The government’s red ink is our black ink. The trouble is “safe savings” doesn’t have the same air of doom about it.

[javascriptfan69]

Where did you get that assertion?

The article literally says that they earn more because they work more hours on average.

[neilwilson]

For the deficit to reduce we overall have to be saving less.

[javascriptfan69]

Are you talking about trade deficit?

This is about deficit in government spending.

Immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits.

[neilwilson]

For the deficit in government spending to reduce the private sector has to save less. They are one and the same thing.

The immigrants are spending all they get. Nothing to do with taxes.

Learn how the accounting works

[Starman_Jones]

On the surface, there's absolutely zero connection between public debt and private (personal) savings. If there's a hidden connection, you're going to have to explain it, because it's not clear at all how they are one and the same.

[neilwilson]

What is a gilt or a Treasury? It is a private saving certificate bought by people in exchange for bank deposits they have previously accrued.

Those bank deposits are transferred to Treasury by deleting the bank deposit and by the bank transferring central bank credits back to the Treasury.

Where did those bank deposits originate from? From the government transferring central bank credits to the payee bank and the payee bank then crediting the deposit account.

If the individual chooses to hold the bank deposit, then the bank itself will purchase the government security with the credits it received from the central bank when government made its payment.

Does that clear it up for you?

The full gory details in the UK case is here: https://doi.org/10.1080/00213624.2025.2533726