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by vascocosta 136 days ago
I totally resonate with the author of the post. My main requirement to enjoy a language deeply is often simplicity, so I love languages like, C, Golang, Odin and Zig.

That said, I also acknowledge that often times I need to solve problems that can benefit from a language that embraces what I call necessary complexity, but do it in elegant ways. Whenever I need to prioritise code correctness, especially memory and concurrency safety, using a mostly functional pattern instead of OOP, but without going as extreme as say Haskell, I unquestionably choose Rust, my favourite complex language. I often work with network code that is highly concurrent, must be as correct as possible and benefits from good performance, so then again, Rust feels natural here.

On the other hand, I love coding simple indie games and for that particular case, I like a simple and performant language using an imperative, non-OOP style. In my opinion C, and in particular Odin more recently are quite a good fit. If Jonathan happens to be reading this comment, since he mentioned Golang, I would suggest him Odin as perhaps the best of both worlds between C and Golang. It has all the simplicity of Golang, but without a garbage collector, plus it is quite easy to code a game using Raylib.

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> I would suggest him Odin as perhaps the best of both worlds between C and Golang.

It's interesting to me that you say this, because it's the exact way that I describe Zig to people. Especially with the new std.Io async / concurrency changes. Do you feel Odin fits the space between Go and C better than Zig? Or just differently, and they both share the same space?

The language is called Go, golang is the website domain.
I know, but I often use Golang for two reasons: 1. avoids confusion, no matter how unlikely it is in a context like HN, and 2. search engine "findability".
> 1. avoids confusion, no matter how unlikely it is in a context like HN

Who would be confused by "Go", but not "Rust" and "Zig", which are also common English words not usually associated with programming languages?

> 2. search engine "findability".

What kind of search engine are you using in 2026 that isn't capable of understanding context?

And where one is still using some weird antique thing like a steampunk character, "C" is going to be the least findable, yet it didn't receive the same treatment. Why is that?

At least with regards your second point, Google, DuckDuckGo, all other search engines. I always have to add "golang" because otherwise it just fucks up. I have to say that googling for "C", is a lot more dire, and because the LLVM people called their frontend "clang" I can't even use that, otherwise only clang stuff pops up. And even then, once I did manage to convince the search engine that I'm looking for the programming language, it still decides to just give me results for C++. It sucks.
> I can't even use that, otherwise only clang stuff pops up.

The searchable form is 'clanglang'. golang is the language compiled by the go compiler, like erlanglang is compiled by the erlang compiler, and clanglang is compiled by the clang compiler.

> because the LLVM people called their frontend "clang" I can't even use that

Said frontend is for the C programming language. Isn't that perfectly appropriate? I did a web search for "golang" and the first result was a download page for a Go compiler, so there is precedent.

What's the first result for "clang"? How about in private browsing?
The use of "golang" for posts and comments is desirable IMHO because it greatly facilitates search, especially on sites such as HN that cover many languages.
Searching "site:news.ycombinator.com go" on Google didn't yield any results that weren't about the Go programming language even after going several pages deep. What kind of search problems are you having, exactly?

And why is it unique to Go? I am sure there are comments on HN about metal oxidization, making sharp changes in direction, Norse gods, and letters of the alphabet.

But if you go to the search box at the bottom of the HN page and type in 'go' the first hit is "Julian Assange has reached a plea deal with the U.S., allowing him to go free," In the top 10 results, only _two_ are about Go, the language.

Whereas the first 50 golang hits are all about the language.

You might have your preferred approach, but there are good reasons for using golang.

> but there are good reasons for using golang.

Such as? If you type in 'C' into HN's search box, the first result is about the F.C.C., followed by C.E.O., then USB-C. Even once we finally see one about a programming language, it is about C#.

If the earlier list was instead 'Clangclang, Golang, Odinlang and Ziglang' then I could maybe understand where you are coming from, but that is not what we saw. Clearly there was no effort put into aiding searchers universally.

Are you trying to suggest that Go is the only language worth reading about? Let me try to restate the earlier question in your tongue: Why is it unique to 'golang'?

I suggest admins to rename the post title as " I write games in Clang (yes Clang)", given how hard it is to find C content.

It might end up finding stuff about a compiler though.