[feastingonslop]

And there was a time when using libraries and frameworks was the right thing to do, for that very reason. But LLMs have the equivalent of way more experience than any single programmer, and can generate just the bit of code that you actually need, without having to include the whole framework.

[trescenzi]

As someone who’s built a lot of frontend frameworks this isn’t what I’ve found. Instead I’ve found that you end up with the middle ground choice which while effective is no better than the externally maintained library of choice. The reason to build your own framework is so it’s tailor suited to your use cases. The architecting required to do that LLMs can help with but you have to guide them and to guide them you need expertise.

[plagiarist]

I would like a more reliable way to activate this "way more experience."

What I see in my own domain I often recognize as superficially working but flawed in various ways. I have to assume the domains I am less familiar are the same.

[koverstreet]

Claude's a smart junior engineer who's read a lot of books but is lacking in real word experience.

It definitely eliminates a lot of tedium, but needs a lot of guidance if you want good results.

[leecommamichael]

> can generate just the bit of code that you actually need

Design is the key. Codebases (libraries and frameworks not exempt,) have a designed uniformity to them. How does a beginner learn to do this sort of design? Can it be acquired completely by the programmer who uses LLMs to generate their code? Can it be beneficial to recognize opinionated design in the output of an LLM? How do you come to recognize opinion?

In my personal history, I've worked alongside many programmers who only ever used frameworks. They did not have coding design sensibilities deeper than a social populist definition of "best practice." They looked to someone else to define what they can or cannot do. What is right to do.

[mnicky]

Critically, they will also enable faster future migration to a framework in case it proves useful.