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by spwa4 138 days ago
Something like this that's proven itself: https://www.figma.com/blog/webassembly-cut-figmas-load-time-...

TLDR: C++, WASM, and some form of GRPC with C++ on the server side as well. Because you need a language that's fast, can contain high complexity and large programs without collapsing (which is a short list of languages) and can work fast for the bits that need speed.
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macNchz 138 days ago
That article is seemingly all about the perf of the complex frontend app with a custom renderer running in the browser, nothing to do with what’s happening on the server.
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speedgoose 138 days ago
I’m my opinion, you have to be kinda masochist to choose C++ for this. Web development is hard in C++.

But thanks for answering honestly.

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spwa4 138 days ago
In my opinion one inherent property of languages is how large the largest program is that can be written in those languages. There's languages that work well for short programs. Bash, perl are examples on one end of the spectrum. Then you have things like lisp and Python where the largest programs are a lot larger already, but still hit obvious limits. And then you have the languages that support really large codebases. Java, C++ are ones currently in use.

There's new languages where it's a bit of an open question still where they lie on the spectrum. Go would be one of them. I'd guess somewhere between Python and Java. Javascript I would argue is between perl and python. And Rust ... well ... good question.

An office suite is a gigantic application, which will need feature upon feature upon feature upon feature. If you want it working on the web, I'd propose something like C++ and WASM.

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irishcoffee 138 days ago
Wt actually isn’t terrible, with the added benefit of being able to leverage the enormous c/c++ library ecosystem. Also, it can be quite fast if you care for it to be.

Edit: also appears to be based in the eu, how fitting for this thread.

https://www.webtoolkit.eu/wt

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