[palmotea]

> How about if your neighborhood wanted to keep out people of a certain ethnicity instead? Is that a democratic outcome that we need to respect?

Come on, you know that's not analogous.

> It does not mean that every single decision in society is up for a vote at the local level.

It also doesn't mean "any policy the voters want, as long as long as it's the one I want."

Nowadays, when people bring up examples like you did above, it's usually part of an attempt to shut down democratic decision making, by making false comparisons.

[alsetmusic]

> Come on, you know that's not analogous.

Not who you responded to, but I thought it was completely fair. We were a nation filled with Sundown Towns[0,1] very recently. Some probably still exist but are more discrete about it to avoid unwanted attention from those of us who would (loudly) call bullshit on the practice.

> Nowadays, when people bring up examples like you did above, it's usually part of an attempt to shut down democratic decision making, by making false comparisons.

I think you're trying to shutdown someone who has a different opinion from yours by delegitimizing their position. It's not reading the way you thought it would.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundown_town

1. https://thenewpress.org/books/sundown-towns/

[palmotea]

> I think you're trying to shutdown someone who has a different opinion from yours by delegitimizing their position.

I'm trying to delegimimize the delegitimization that was being directed at me.

[alsetmusic]

> I'm trying to delegimimize the delegitimization that was being directed at me.

And yet you did it again.

[Lammy]

I wish we could say “were” :/ http://radicalcartography.net/bayarea.html

[bombcar]

Discrimination based on money is so much more elegant than silly old race.

[mmooss]

> Come on, you know that's not analogous.

Maybe not analogous, but closely related: Many of those suburbs were built for people who wanted to segregate themselves from minorities, and took steps to keep them out.

> when people bring up examples like you did above, it's usually part of an attempt to shut down democratic decision making, by making false comparisons.

You seem to be shutting down the conversation. IME that is what happens overhwhelmingly when attempting to discuss issues of racism - far more than the few times people address the issue seriously. It's as if they think racism doesn't exist.

[vel0city]

It's definitely analogous. The suburbs around me are voting to leave the regional transit org. Many people openly state the reason why they want to leave is because it brings "the wrong kind of people" to our neighborhoods.

This kind of voting still happens today. Don't bury your head in the sand.