[giraffe_lady]

I don't think we're on the same page here, I don't see that trump's policies are particularly central to the appeal or power of his movement. They aren't even important to trump.

The tea party was a right wing populist movement and maga is an extreme right populist movement that emerges a handful of years later, with astounding overlap in membership, and you don't think they're connected? ok.

[DiscourseFan]

I really don’t think they are all the same people. Some of the leaders, yes, but you cannot tell me that members of the general public who supported these leaders suddenly shifted from liberterians to authoritarians within a decade.

[giraffe_lady]

Why are you assuming they are all fully engaged ideological libertarians? They switched from a political movement significantly based on racial grievance and revanchist social policies to one almost exclusively based on racial grievance and revanchist social policies. I think there might be something other than libertarianism they care about.