[famouswaffles]

Ahh Bulverism, with a hint of ad-hominem and a dash no No True Scotsman. I think the most damning indictment here is the seeming inability to make actual arguments and not just cheap shots at people you've never even met.

Please tell me, "Were people excited about high-level languages just programmers who 'couldn't hack it' with assembly? Maybe you are one of those? Were GUI advocates just people who couldn't master the command line?"

[sho_hn]

Thanks for teaching me about Bulverism, I hadn't heard of that fallacy before. I can see how my comment displays those characteristics and will probably try to avoid that pattern more in the future.

Honestly, I still think there's truth to what I wrote, and I don't think your counter-examples prove it wrong per-se. The prompt I responded to ("why are people taking this seriously") also led fairly naturally down the road of examining the reasons. That was of course my choice to do, but it's also just what interested me in the moment.

[BrouteMinou]

I think he's a cook, watching people putting frozen "meals" in the microwave and telling himself: "hey! That's not cooking!".

And I totally agree with him. Throwing some kind of fallacy in the air for the show doesn't make your argument, or lack of, more convincing.

[famouswaffles]

>I think he's a cook, watching people putting frozen "meals" in the microwave and telling himself: "hey! That's not cooking!".

It's the equivalent of saying anyone excited about being able to microwave Frozen meals is a hack who couldn't make it in the kitchen. I'm sorry, but if you don't see how ridiculous that assertion is then I don't know what to tell you.

>And I totally agree with him. Throwing some kind of fallacy in the air for the show doesn't make your argument, or lack of, more convincing.

A series of condescending statements meant to demean with no objective backing whatsoever is not an argument. What do you want me to say ? There's nothing worth addressing, other than pointing out how empty it is.

You think there aren't big shots, more accomplished than anyone in this conversation who are similarly enthusiastic?

You and OP have zero actual clue. At any advancement, regardless of how big or consequential, there are always people like that. It's very nice to feel smart and superior and degrade others, but people ought to be better than that.

So I'm sorry but I don't really care how superior a cook you think you are.

[sho_hn]

> You think there aren't big shots, more accomplished than anyone in this conversation who are similarly enthusiastic?

I think both things can be true simultaneously.

You're arguing against a straw man.

[famouswaffles]

Pointing out that your argument relies on an unverifiable (and easily countered) generalization isn't a straw man.