[rayiner]

It’s not obsolete. In a country where your military is farm boys, the important thing is being able to start the war. Eventually chunks of the military will defect. We saw this happen during the Bangladesh independence movement. The revolutionaries got lucky and knocked over a weapons depot early in the conflict. They started fighting and a large number of the Pakistani army that was of Bangladeshi ancestry defected. I am confident the same thing would happen if the government in DC tried to oppress Iowa or Texas.

Drones cut both ways. You’re correct that it allows a small number of people loyal to the regime to asymmetrically oppress a large population. But drone technology is in theory accessible to the populace in an industrialized country.

[FatherOfCurses]

The 2A crowd has been really quiet this past year. Hell, Trump even said in response to the Pretti shooting that only criminals walk around carrying guns in public. I guess no one cares about government tyranny unless they're asked to respect someone's pronouns.

[rayiner]

Why would the 2A people say anything? Conservatives aren’t libertarians. They think government has legitimate functions and draw a distinction between government performing those functions (which isn’t tyranny) and the government exceeding its scope (which is tyranny). Removing foreigners here illegally is a core function of the government. Social engineering is not.

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> Why would the 2A people say anything

Because Trump is very anti 2A.

[rayiner]

He’s a Clinton Democrat so that tracks.

[vdqtp3]

> Hell, Trump even said in response to the Pretti shooting that only criminals walk around carrying guns in public.

If you were paying any attention at all, you'd see pretty much every 2A community, advocate and lobbying group was outraged by that statement and made statements against it.

Having said that, it is actually illegal to carry a firearm to go commit crimes like destroying government property, assaulting federal officers and obstructing them in carrying out their constitutional duties.

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> illegal to carry a firearm to go commit crimes

Of which Pretti did zero of.

[rayiner]

There is video of him kicking light the tail light of a federal law enforcement vehicle, which is definitely a crime. And that’s just what we have video of.

[seg_lol]

We have video from both sides of the door of a stack of ICE agents with AR15s breaking down a door to a daycare without a warrant.

We have video of at least three ICE agents executing people in the street with testimony that contradicts what we see with our eyes.

[rayiner]

An illegal immigrant fled a traffic stop and went into a daycare: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/11/05/dhs-sets-record-straight...

Pursuit is an exception to the warrant requirement, according to a 1976 Supreme Court case: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/hot_pursuit

[vdqtp3]

That same video shows him spitting on an officer.