[tired-turtle]

> We're all Linus Torvalds now.

So...where's your OS and SCM?

I get your point that wetware stills matter, but I think it's a bit much to contend that more than a handful of people (or everyone) is on the level of Linus Torvalds now that we have LLMs.

[keyle]

I should have been clearer. It was a pun, a take, a joke. I was referring to his day-to-day activity now, where he merges code, doesn't write hardly any code for the linux kernel.

I didn't imply most of use can do half the thing he's done. That's not right.

[Draiken]

Even disregarding what he has done, this is utterly absurd. I almost spit my coffee reading that.

You are going to tell me that the vibe coders care and read the code they merge with the same attention to detail and care that Linus has? Come on...

That's the key for me. People are churning out "full features" or even apps claiming they are dealing with a new abstraction level, but they don't give a fuck about the quality of that shit. They don't care if it breaks in 3 weeks/months/years or if that code's even needed or not.

Someone will surely come say "I read all the code I generate" and then I'll say either you're not getting these BS productivity boost people claim or you're lying.

I've seen people pushing out 40k lines of code in a single PR and have the audacity to tell me they've reviewed the code. It's preposterous. People skim over it and YOLO merge.

Or if you do review everything, then it's not gonna be much faster than writing it yourself unless it's extremely simple CRUD stuff that's been done a billion times over. If you're only using AI for these tasks maybe you're a bit more efficient, but nothing close to the claims I keep reading.

I wish people cared about what code they wrote/merged like Linus does, because we'd have a hell of a lot less issues.

[tired-turtle]

> his day-to-day activity now, where he merges code

But even then...don't you think his insight into and ability to verify a PR far exceeds that of most devs (LLM or not)? Most of us cannot (reasonably) aspire to be like him.

[keyle]

Like I said if you didn't know what you were doing before, you won't know what you're doing with today.

Agentic coding in general only amplify your ability (or disability).

You can totally learn how to build an OS and invest 5 years of your life doing so. The first version of Linux I'm sure was pretty shoddy. Same for a SCM.

I've been doing this for 30 years. At some point, your limit becomes how much time you're willing to invest in something.

[DANmode]

But some can aspire to be him circa five years ago,

while Linus has his own efforts multiplied as well.

[fragmede]

My hair hasn't turned blonde and I don't suddenly know how to speak Finnish, either.

You might have missed their point.