[Der_Einzige]

It literally always is. HN Thought DeepSeek and every version of Kimi would finally dethrone the bigger models from Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google. They're literally always wrong and average knowledge of LLMs here is shockingly low.

[cmrdporcupine]

Nobody has been saying they'd be dethroned. We're saying they're often "good enough" for many use cases, and that they're doing a good job of stopping the Big Guys from creating a giant expensive moat around their businesses.

Chinese labs are acting as a disruption against Altman etcs attempt to create big tech monopolies, and that's why some of us cheer for them.

[Der_Einzige]

"Nobody says X" is as presumptuous and wrong (both metaphorically and literally) as "LLMs can't do X". It is one of the worst thought terminating cliches.

Thousands have been saying this, you aren't paying attention.

[cmrdporcupine]

As thought terminating as "HN Thought [insert strawman here]"

C'mon.