[theshrike79]

> Sadly this is an inherent weakness of the US constitution. It's old and it was written at a time where we didn't have enough experience with democracies.

(I'm not even American and I know this)

The constitution was meant to be a living document, adjusted over the years as the world changes.

But the very opposite happened, it became Holy Scripture, unchanging and never evolving.

The whole American system was based on the idea that the ruling class cared for "reputation", "honor" or "legacy". It was wholy unprepared for people who just don't give a fuck about all that and actively wipe their asses on existing rules and conventions.

Like going in front of Congress and just ... lying. Provably, verifiably lying. Zero recourse, the shame of lying used to be enough. And because of ancient decorum rules, the congress can't even say "you're lying" and google the facts right there and then, they have to do this idiotic perfromatic dance of asking the same question repeatedly and getting a word salad non-answer back for hours.

Or just not going for the inquiry because, why would you? There's no penalty past "losing face" for not going. Why bother.

The system was flawed from the start, but the people were still in there for the best of everyone so it held together and mostly worked. Politicians respected one another as people and humans, even though they differed in opinion.

I personally can't see a way back for USA without a massive purge in the government followed by actual ironclad laws and processes set in stone to prevent anything like this from happening again. Let congress google basic facts, let them call people liars to their face, give them their own execuitve branch that can drag people for hearings by force if needed.

And copy the German Federal Constitutional Court[0] system, they have term limits and people are nominated through multiple channels.

[epolanski]

It's also interesting how the constitution is only a holy grail when it comes to stuff the particular individual you ask about cares for.

So you end up talking with individuals where "the 2nd amendment says I can have guns, it's in the constitution" and "my favorite president should go for a third term, the 22nd amendment is just a technicality".

[exe34]

The 2nd amendment was only carved out to cater for school shootings and manly displays of virility on Facebook. I suppose maggats thought they would need it to rise up against a tyrannical government that protects minorities, but now that they have a fascist government, they tell us that the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments aren't actually serious. You have to be nice to the members of the gestapo, if they get offended, they can kill you. if you hold a protest, they can kill you. if you carry your gun, they can kill you. they will face no consequences other than getting doxxed and going into hiding for a bit of a break.

[int_19h]

The original American political system is based, first and foremost, on the notion that political parties are bad and shouldn't exist.

Of course, it never really worked out that way. We're simply at the end of that very long line.