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> You don't need to use microsoft's or apple's or google's shit UI frameworks. E.g. see https://filepilot.tech/

That's only for Windows though, it seems? Maybe the whole "just write all the rendering yourself using metal/gl/dx" is slightly harder than you think.

[OlympicMarmoto]

The proof that rendering is not _that_ hard because the flutter team did it when they switched off skia (although technically they still use skia for text rendering, I'll admit that text rendering and layout is hard)

[mstipetic]

How is a fact that someone did something proof that it isn’t hard?

[bandrami]

I mean, every cross-platform commercial DAW manages to do it? Bitwig, Renoise, Reaper, even VCV.

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