[ilyaizen]

Don't believe the hype, this is tribal thinking. Everybody seems to have these widely diverging opinions on AI lately. What does AGI have to do with predicting the next token stochastically like a parrot? Oh, people say you can brute-force AGI, if only things are answered correctly. I get that, I still see SOTA models sometimes fail like babies. I also mostly see them perform at a much higher intelligence and work ethics than I can, but maybe I'm too hard on myself.

Anyway, here's something I've recently build that shows the HN consensus when it comes to AI-Coding (spoiler: they say it's quite good): https://is-ai-good-yet.com/ Is AI “good” yet? – A survey website that analyzes Hacker News sentiment toward AI coding.

[EdwardDiego]

Then I see people claiming current AI is human equivalent because "humans make mistakes/hallucinate too." It's tiring.

I'll believe AI is approaching human equivalence when one writes the next great American novel, or becomes superstitious - if you're going to be human level, genuine creativity ex nihilo and/or pattern recognition that overfits into religious belief would convince me.

[user3939382]

We have good research showing we think in language. So the seed is there. I’m working on methods (hardware and software) that gave us insane speeds and compression so you get orders of magnitude greater performance.

[PurpleRamen]

> We have good research showing we think in language.

Source? From my knowledge, we do not "think in language", but we learn to finetune our thinking to be expressed in the form of words. Unless you consider pictures as language, after all "A picture is worth a thousand words"..

[user3939382]

Look up research on deaf cognition and language acquisition.

[mastermage]

I think what you mean is Language shapes our thinking, but it is not a requirement of it.

[GOD_Over_Djinn]

That implies that nonverbal people are unable to think, no?

[ilyaizen]

What? What does it have to do with anything that I said? Wow, I think HN has lost its spark.

[satvikpendem]

Seems like they just want to promote their product, sadly.

[user3939382]

No sadly you have everyone and their mother talking about when we will get AGI and what it means, have no original thoughts, have no model, and the 1% who do think they have a model or concept thats buildable. everything I’ve read is essentially just an LLM.

Everyone is like you, projecting their own limitations until you dazzle them with glittery demos thats fine.

[satvikpendem]

Well, we'll see if you make it then.

[ilyaizen]

Seriously, what's a good alternative to HN these days, Refetch.io? This site seems to have turned too LinkedIn-like.

https://refetch.io/

[razodactyl]

Brilliant website. It should be a post of its own.

[ilyaizen]

Thank you so much, I _really_ appreciate this first, positive feedback. I only posted this couple of hours ago and my goal is to reach the front page. Here's the Show HN post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46851589

[deafpolygon]

> totals: +37.4k (332 GOOD) -4.6k (139 NEUTRAL) -28.2k (269 BAD)

I mean. “Yes”, but no, not really.

[viking123]

We are decades if not hundreds of years away from any real AGI. The AGI is for many tech people what God is for most people in the world, it's kind of a feel-good thing to believe that in their lifetime they can essentially have this intelligence that can be cloned unlimited times and essentially solve any problem thrown at it and liberate them from aging and death.

I think one day this kind of system will probably exist in some form, I don't see any fundamental reason why not but to believe fraudsters like Amodei and Altman telling you that in 6 months world will possibly end and the AIs will take over, it's just nonsense fed to boomer investors who have 0 clue.

Many crypto scammers have pivoted to AI because there are new useful idiots to scam now that crypto is not doing too hot.

Frankly the whole world is just scam after scam nowadays, they noticed that the Elon Musk strategy of continuously promising something "the next year" actually works so they are all doing it stringing people along.

[razodactyl]

I don't want to believe you are right. Not that I refuse to...

You could be wrong, hopefully. I'll just remain optimistic.

It's good that critical thinking still exists to keep us all grounded.

Edit: I think you meant to replace AGI with ASI.

What we have now is approaching the ability to solve problems generally with considerable effort but super intelligence is definitely out of reach for the time being.

[satvikpendem]

I find it funny that people would think an AGI would want to solve their problems rather than its own problems, ie going rogue from humanity's perspective.