[post-it]

Reinstalling the OS sucks. I need to pull all my bank cards out of my safe and re-add their CVV's to the wallet, and sometimes authenticate over the phone. And re-register my face. And log back in to all my apps. It can take an hour or so, except it's spread out over weeks as I open an app and realize I need to log in a dozen times.

[RulerOf]

There was a magical period. I suspect it ended with the introduction of the Secure Enclave. But maybe it was a little later.

An encrypted iTunes backup of a device was a perfect image. Take the backup, pull the SIM card, restore the backup to a new phone with the sim card installed, and it was like nothing had happened.

No reauthentication. No missing notifications. No lost data. Ever.

It was nice.

[throwaway132448]

Security theatre killed this. Everyone must be assumed to be a moron incapable of living with the consequences of their own choices at all times.

[fragmede]

It's not theater. If an attacker can duplicate your device, that's a problem.

[throwaway132448]

Says who? How do you know what’s on my device, how much it matters to me, and what countless other options I have for recourse if that did happen?

[fragmede]

What does that have to do with it being theater or not?

[throwaway132448]

Because I’m saying the threat vector you used to justify it is not an issue for me at all, so it’s a baseless justification for “security”, ergo, theatre.

[post-it]

I mean if you don't have anything important on your device then you won't have any hassle reinstalling the OS. Secure Enclave is optional.

[throwaway132448]

Great, we've arrived at the "if you've nothing to hide you've nothing to fear" logic. Always a winner.

[JCharante]

> And log back in to all my apps

Isn’t this built in when transferring devices? Are backups different?

[0x457]

Some information stored in Secure Enclave and cannot be pulled out from there by design.