[overgard]

I'm curious, outside of AI enthusiasts have people found value with using Clawdbot, and if so, what are they doing with it? From my perspective it seems like the people legitimately busy enough that they actually need an AI assistant are also people with enough responsibilities that they have to be very careful about letting something act on their behalf with minimal supervision. It seems like that sort of person could probably afford to hire an administrative assistant anyway (a trustworthy one), or if it's for work they probably already have one.

On the other hand, the people most inclined to hand over access to everything to this bot also strike me as people without a lot to lose? I don't want to make an unfair characterization or anything, it just strikes me that handing over the keys to your entire life/identity is a lot more palatable if you don't have much to lose anyway?

Am I missing something?

[h4kunamata]

From my perspective, not everybody is busy but they are using AI to remove the load from them.

You might think: But that is great right??

I had a chat with a friend also in IT, ChatGPT and alike is the one doing all the "brain part and execution" in most cases. Entire workflows are done by AI tools, he just presses a button in some cases.

People forget that our brain needs stimulation, if you don't use it, you forget things and it gets dumber. Watch the next generation of engineers that are very good at using AI but are unable to do troubleshooting on their own.

Look at what happened with ChatGPT4 -> 5, companies workflows worldwide stopped working setting companies back by months.

Do you wanna a real world example???

Watch people who spent their entire lives within an university getting all sort of qualification but never really touched the real deal unable to do anything.

Sure, there are the smarter ones who would put things to the test and found awesome job, but many are jobless because all they did is "press a button", they are just like the AI enthusiasts, remove such tools and they can no longer work.

[Terr_]

Yeah, the scary problem comes from people who are trying to abdicate their entire understand-and-decide phase to an outside entity.

What's more, that's not fundamentally a new thing, it's always been possible for someone to helplessly cling to another human as their brain... but we've typically considered that to be a sign of either mental-disorder, psychological abuse, or a fool about to be parted from their money.

[lxgr]

There's some good discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46838946

[mh2266]

The whole premise of this thing seems to be that it has access to your email, web browser, messaging, and so on. That's what makes it, in theory, useful.

The prompt injection possibilities are incredibly obvious... the entire world has write access to your agent.

???????

[amelius]

What you are missing: now people finally have a Siri that actually works.

[overgard]

I guess that's one reason. If I'm perfectly honest I always turn Siri off because I don't trust Siri either; but that's less of a "malicious actors" thing and more of a "it doesn't work well thing". Although to be honest, outside of driving in a car I don't really want a voice interface. With a lot of things I feel like I need to overspecify it if I have to do it verbally. Like "play this song, but play it from my spotify Liked playlist so that when the song is over it transitions to something I want" (I've never tried that since I figure siri can't do it -- just an example)

[jondwillis]

Does it matter? Let them cook and get burned if they want to.

[Trufa]

It is very much fun! Chaotic and definitely dangerous but a fun little experiment of the boundaries.

It’s definitely not it it’s final form but it’s showing potential.

[overgard]

I can see how it could be fun, but I'm a bit skeptical that it's a practical path forward. The security problems it has (prompt injection for example) don't seem solvable with LLMs in general

[voxgen]

I'm working in AI, but I'd have made this anyway: Molty is my language learning accountability buddy. It crawls the web with a sandboxed subagent to find me interesting stuff to read in French and Japanese. It makes Anki flashcards for me. And it wraps it up by quizzing me on the day's reading in the evening.

All this is running on a cheap VPS, where the worst it has access to is the LLM and Discord API keys and AnkiWeb login.