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>People keep forgetting that Objective-C also had a full stack role on NeXTSTEP.

In terms of Apps and Low Level Stack Objective-C doesn't seems wrong in my book. The problem is Swift begin as a much larger language and evolve into a gigantic pile of a little of everything.

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Doesn't seem to hinder C++, which modern C compilers are written with nowadays.

Despite all its complexity, LLVM and GCC aren't getting rewritten any time soon, or the OSes that rather use C++ subsets instead of being stuck with C.