[wolvoleo]

Is liquid glass really that bad? I left Mac years ago due to other annoyances. It was my daily driver for a decade and change. But I couldn't get used to the iOSification and the dependence on apple cloud services for most new features. When I started with macOS jaguar it was just a really good commercial UNIX. It got even better with Tiger and leopard.

But the later years I spent every release looking at new fancy features I couldn't use because I don't use apple exclusively (and I don't use iOS at all, too closed for me). So almost no features that appealed to me while usually breaking some parts of the workflow I did use.

While I did hate the 'flat' redesign after Mavericks that on its own was not really a deal-breaker though. Just an annoyance.

I'm kinda surprised liquid glass is so bad people actually leave for it. Or is it more like the last drop?

[codebje]

> Is liquid glass really that bad?

No, but every release of MacOS has a noisy minority declaring it, or some features of it, as the end of Macs. Some people will genuinely hate it in the way that nothing can be universally loved, some people will abandon Macs over it, most people don't feel strongly about it at all.

Maybe there's some people out there that love it, even.

I can barely tell the difference between the Mac I use that's been upgraded, and the Mac that hasn't due to its age, because I'm not spending my time at the computers staring at the decor. The contents of the application windows is the same.

[Aurornis]

> Is liquid glass really that bad?

I don’t like it, but I think the claims of mass exodus are unlikely.

It feels a lot like the situation when Reddit started charging for their API: Everywhere you looked you could find claims that it was the end of Reddit, but in the end it was just a vocal minority. Reddit’s traffic patterns didn’t decline at all.

[mort96]

Liquid Glass really is that bad. Not because the visual design is especially bad (not my cup of tea but it's okay); but because all of macOS is now incredibly janky. Even Spotlight is a janky mess now with lots of broken animations.

[steve1977]

> Is liquid glass really that bad?

It's unfinished. For example, the more rounded windows would require that scrollbars or other widgets are more inset and things like that. The system doesn't seem to handle this automatically, so many apps look broken, even Apple's first party ones.