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by blueprint 139 days ago
How many of those people who spend their time using other IDEs on other OSs (where Xcode doesn't run) spend any amount of time using Xcode and therefore have the requisite experience to be able to know that it's generally excellent?

And when you say "you hear", you really mean "you", not "me". I hear it a lot.

What motivated your comment?
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jayd16 137 days ago
I mostly work in games where Xcode is an all too common chore to pick up from time to time because Apple changed the rules on something or other to get an iOS build out. Usually I find that xcode isn't helpful at all in solving these problems. You need to dig through guis because it will not just trivially point you to the text file like VS or Jetbrains would.

It's certainly not a pleasant treat to pick the short straw.

Beyond that, I work with plenty of folks who have dabbled in xcode for mobile or on the side and it's just not seen in that great a light.

Meanwhile, I find that people who love xcode are all in and don't really give alternatives a chance at all (because when you have to use xcode, there isn't an alternative).

Even in this comment chain, we're rejecting other's opinions outright instead of talking about killer features xcode has that others fail at.

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Brian_K_White 139 days ago
Hasn't everybody at least tried everything significant just because? Even the most non-apple developer must have at least checked it out on a friends laptop or something just to be informed of the state of their own business.

If there are developers who are that incurious, all I can say is I don't understand them.

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blueprint 139 days ago
> Hasn't everybody at least tried everything significant just because?

No, not in the slightest. I would call this one the most dangerous and unfortunate fallacies that so many intelligent people have ever accepted and been cheated by. If it were true, you'd know everything important there is to know, and be a master of philosophy, and would have many answers to some basic questions which most people have been told have no good or concrete or verifiable answers.

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Brian_K_White 139 days ago
Hyperbole is rarely useful.
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virgildotcodes 139 days ago
> Hasn't everybody at least tried everything significant just because?

Btw, not defending Xcode. It may be powerful but it is so goddamn sluggish that it is miserable to use.

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