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by maqp 143 days ago
No end-to-end encryption by default. WhatsApp has.

No end-to-end encryption for groups. WhatsApp has.

No end-to-end encryption on desktop. WhatsApp has.

No break-in key-recovery. WhatsApp has.

Inferring Telegram's security from public statements of *checks notes* former KGB officer and FSB director -- agencies that wrote majority of the literature in maskirovka, isn't exactly reliable, wouldn't you agree?
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cft 143 days ago
Telegram has private chats. I don't pay attention to his words, indeed. Way before the Ukrainian war, Russia had a massive campaign trying to block Telegram and they failed on a technical level. This has never happened with WhatsApp.
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maqp 142 days ago
Yeah it's really hard to block tally count of five IPs. https://telegramplayground.github.io/pyrogram/faq/what-are-t...

No wonder the great Russian firewall is struggling to keep TG at bay. Wake up.

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cft 141 days ago
>Yeah it's really hard to block tally count of five IPs.

They blocked 16m IPs, to the extent that it started affecting the entire Russian's internet stability, and Telegram was still available there: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/17/russia-blocks-...

>Wake up

Is that a demand? A slogan? I wonder how much your own wokeness affects your ability to absorb facts.

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maqp 132 days ago
The server IPs are hard-coded into the Telegram client's source:

https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/d7deedfa33ddfa51c72a5...

You know you can just run

$ git clone https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram.git && cd Telegram && FILE="TMessagesProj/jni/tgnet/ConnectionsManager.cpp" && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.175.50' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:b28:f23d:f001:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.167.51' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'95.161.76.100' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:67c:4e8:f002:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.175.100' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:b28:f23d:f003:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.167.91' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:67c:4e8:f004:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.171.5' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:b28:f23f:f005:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1

To get when the IPs first appeared, right? :D

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They've been the same IP addresses for ELEVEN years, and they precede the article you linked by THREE YEARS.

They're not playing the catch-up with Russian government. Either Russian government is completely incompetent in that they're blocking 3,000,000 IP addresses and failing, or they are LYING about attempting to block it, which would indicate Telegram is a Russian op.

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