[GeoAtreides]

Surely one easily see that the second programmer didn't take the first programmer talent (or his knowledge) and claimed it as their own...

[ares623]

Engineers man… of all the problems we see today, giving real power to engineers is probably a root cause of many.

[radialstub]

In China, engineers hold the most power, yet the country prospers. I don't think the problem is giving engineers power, rather a cultural thing. In china there is a general feeling of contributing towards the society, in the US everyone is trying to screw over each-other, for political or monetary reasons.