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by almosthere 139 days ago
I actually think it's so bad in our country right now that if someone showed up at the court and snuck a gun in and shot Luigi in the back and killed him ... THAT guy would definitely get the death penalty. (he should, but so should Luigi)

It's all political at this point.
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JumpCrisscross 139 days ago
> THAT guy would definitely get the death penalty

If they did it in a federal court? Probably. If they did it in the state court? Probably not. New York doesn’t have the death penalty.

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dagmx 139 days ago
Why should either of them get the death penalty?
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JumpCrisscross 139 days ago
> Why should either of them get the death penalty?

Pardons. If he's pardoned there is a good chance he'll kill again. (And inspire copycats.)

We need to eliminate pardons across our system of justice. Between Biden pardoning his son and Trump pardoning the J6'ers, there should be a bipartisan case for closing this.

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DANmode 139 days ago
or…if we’re at the point we need to neuter the power of the elected office,

just randomly appoint people, and stop pretending what we’re doing is working.

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JumpCrisscross 139 days ago
> if we’re at the point we need to neuter the power of the elected office

Eliminating pardon power doesn’t neuter the Presidency or Governorships. The Romans didn’t even automatically grant the power to dictators.

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DANmode 139 days ago
“begin neutering”, then.

Not arguing for the pardon power - just demanding better leadership.

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dagmx 139 days ago
Why would he need to be pardoned to inspire copycats? Why wouldn’t his death cause him to become a martyr and inspire others?

Why would he be pardoned by the governor at all? Why do you believe Hunter Biden being pardoned is on the same level as J6 being pardoned, when the reasoning (accurately) was to protect him from a perversion of the law in turn?

Your entire argument is essentially “kill them before they can prove they’re not still a threat”.

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ben_w 138 days ago
> Why do you believe Hunter Biden being pardoned is on the same level as J6 being pardoned, when the reasoning (accurately) was to protect him from a perversion of the law in turn?

Not to speak for JumpCrisscross, but IMO this could be construed not as "Hunter Biden being pardoned is on the same level as J6 being pardoned" but rather "Republicans will support the end of presidential pardoning because of Hunter Biden being pardoned, while Democrats will support the end of presidential pardoning because of J6 being pardoned".

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