[thenaturalist]

Successful by what metric?

Surely not money, because why else would they be raising again and again and again to plug their cash outflow?

[credit_guy]

Because, fundamentally, their biggest competitor is Google. A company with a market cap north of 4 trillion. If OpenAI does not spend hundreds of billions of dollars on datacenters, people will migrate to Google, little by little, and OpenAI will became a new Netscape story. A good product eliminated by an incumbent with infinitely deep pockets.

[thenaturalist]

People will migrate to Google in light of OpenAI's inability to build anything that makes people want to stay with OpenAI, wouldn't you say?

And, given we're here on HN, have we thrown words like "moat" and "risk" around?

If OpenAI is incapable of building anything that can't be easily copied by a third party, what's their justification for existing?

[credit_guy]

> If OpenAI is incapable of building anything that can't be easily copied by a third party

They can build better models, but for that they need a lot of compute and that's where the billions go. These better models can't be easily copied by a third party, because that third party needs to also throw billions at the problem, and billions don't grow in trees.

[falloutx]

People are gonna move to google anyway, because Google can keep the gravy train running for much much longer. OpenAI's business model is totally reckless while Google is a cash rich company.