[pwarner]

Yeah I think this is a good way to think about it. I mean Google, MSFT for example have effectively unlimited developers, and their products still suck in some areas (Teams is my number one worst) so maybe AI will allow them to upgrade their features and compete

[ThrowawayB7]

At large companies, UI/UX is done by UI/UX designers and features are chosen and prioritized by product management and customer research teams. Developers don't get much input.

As Steve Jobs said long ago "The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste." but you can apply the same to Google and anyone else trying to compete with them. Having infinite AI developers doesn't help those who have UI designers and product managers that have no taste.

[cxvwbvb]

ermmm youre missing a bigger point.

MSFT, GOOG et al have an enormous army of engineers. And yet, they dont seem to be continually releasing one hit product after another. Why is that? Because writing lines of code is not the bottleneck of continually producing and bringing new products to market.

Its crazy to me how people are missing the point with all this.

[confidantlake]

It is so depressing that teams won despite being worse than pretty much every other chat application just because MSFT bundled it with office.

[Ekaros]

From outside as consumer. The end problem is that these product do not compete on price. A chat app on enterprise at the scale of customers they have should probably be 1€ a month. Not 10 or 20€.

That might not be multi billions a year business, but maybe chat app should not be one.

[pwarner]

I think a big factor is generational. Bigcos are led mlby generations that are phone or email first. Chat is an afterthought. For orgs like that, Teams is great if chat is your least important collaboration method.

[tass]

You mean, with Microsoft 365 Copilot App (there’s no more Office)

[rbanffy]

Jobs was right.