[rienbdj]

From the outside looking in, this all feels like too little too late. Big tech has decided on Rust for future infrastructure projects. C++ will get QoL improvements… one day and the committees seem unable to keep everyone happy or disappoint one stake holder. C++ will be around forever, but will it be primarily legacy?

[20k]

Yes. Unfortunately the committee has completely abandoned safety at this point. Even memory/thread safety profiles have been indefinitely postponed. The latest ghost safety lifetimes thing is completely unimplementable

There literally isn't a plan or direction in place to add any way to compete with Rust in the safety space currently. They've got maybe until c++29 to standardise lifetimes, and then C++ will transition to a legacy language

[direwolf20]

Using containers and std::string for everything eliminates the majority of safety bugs.

[pornel]

The safety bar is way way higher.

The C++ WG keeps looking down at C and the old C++ sins, sees their unsafety, and still thinks that's the problem to fix.

Rust looks the same way at modern C++. The std collections and smart pointers already existed before the Rust project has been started. Modern C++ is the safety failure that motivated creation of Rust.

[Conscat]

You need `GSL` and `lifetimebound` to approach most modern safety bugs.

[AlotOfReading]

If only the standard differentiated between programs that are "mostly" free of UB and programs that aren't.

[cataphract]

Not really. We keep getting pointer-like types like std::string_view and std::span that can outlive their referents.

[mathisfun123]

> Big tech has decided on Rust for future infrastructure projects. C++ will get QoL improvements…

when people say this do they have like any perspective? there are probably more cpp projects started in one week (in big tech) than rust projects in a whole year. case in point: at my FAANG we have probably like O(10) rust projects and hundreds of cpp projects.

[ofrzeta]

> Big tech has decided on Rust for future infrastructure projects.

as they say "citation needed"