[JumpCrisscross]

> Please explain the us–versus–them dynamic you referred to?

The tendency to tar and feather anyone who doesn’t 100% agree with one as a Zionist. (Which, in these circles, carries the same weight as being a bona fide racist.)

This memorably presented itself a few months ago when folks—potentially on the way to changing their minds—would be called Nazis for referring to the war as a war, as if a genocide within a war is somehow inconceivable.

Absolute morality rallies the base. It doesn’t usually convert moderates. And the situation in Gaza defies absolute morality.

[direwolf20]

Don't you see the same problems with Ukraine and Ethiopia? I've seen if you don't 100% agree with a Ukraine supporter they call you a Putin bootlicker, a Russian bot, a Nazi, and so on.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Don't you see the same problems with Ukraine and Ethiopia?

Not commonly.

> I've seen if you don't 100% agree with a Ukraine supporter they call you a Putin bootlicker

I’m sorry. Fuck those guys.

They’re doing damage to the cause in exchange for self aggrandizement. Ersatz therapy through others’ misery is ghoulish.

Perhaps it’s a problem of degrees and segregation. I see much less of that with those fronts. And to the degree it exists, it sequesters itself online and away from the people doing anything useful for the folks on the ground. (My work in Ukraine involved some arms early and then purely political help. In Ethiopia it’s been humanitarian.)

When it comes to Palestine, I see basically zero people quietly focused on the work. (I’ll grant this may be due to ignorance. But it’s exhausting to trawl through shit. And I don’t think I’m alone in disengaging on that basis.)