[verdverm]

The people launching a SaaS in 40 hours are not concerned with the state of vibe coding, the quality of code, or the testing.

They care about the business. If you want to be like them, start by caring far less about the actual code or how it gets made. They will bring in people later who do, who will clean up the vibed mess

*I'm generally not a fan of this, but you asked

[jf22]

You can tell LLMs to conform to certain quality standards and code in a way you think is best.

Gold plating code with the best quality standards takes LLMs seconds whereas it would take you days doing it by hand.

[verdverm]

> You can tell LLMs to...

and they may or may not "listen", they are non-deterministic and have no formal means or requirements to adhere to anything you write. You know this because they violate your rules all the time in your own experience

[jf22]

Sure but in my experience LLMs behave much more consistently than humans with regards to quality. LLMs don't skip tests because they have to make a deadline for example.

And now we have LLMs that review LLM generated code so it's easy to verify quality standards.

[verdverm]

At the same time, the LLM will, with some reliability, ignore the patterns or best practices in your code, or implement the same thing twice in different ways.

There are certain things they do, or don't do, that a human typically wouldn't, putting absolutes and anecdotes aside

[jf22]

Humans, with reliability, will ignore the patterns or best practices in your code and implement the same thing twice in different ways.

In 25 years I've never worked in a codebase where this wasn't true.

[verdverm]

As a group or the same person under the same constraints

It's far to nuanced for generalities tbt