[sixQuarks]

The Elon hate is really creating a blind spot for many people here.

You can’t just compare Tesla to a meme stock when the founder’s side gig is launching and landing orbital rockets - a feat that even the most technologically advanced nation states have failed to accomplish.

Come on people, use a little critical thinking skills.

[anonymars]

Critical thinking might ask how the valuation of company A has any relationship to the activity of a completely separate company B (planning for its own IPO)

But I will concede the founder's other side gigs would appear to have significantly affected its sales

[linkregister]

Multiple things can be true:

1. SpaceX was an exceptionally well-executed good idea, and continues to be a leader in innovation.

2. Tesla brought EVs to the mass consumer market and proved the profitability of EVs.

3. Elon Musk was essential to the success of SpaceX and Tesla.

4. Tesla now has fierce competition in the category it defined: EVs.

5. Tesla has undergone revenue and profit reduction.

6. While it experiences promise in alternate product lines, Tesla is not a market leader in robotics (Unitree, Boston Dynamics) or self-driving cars (Baidu, Waymo). Tesla reported profit growth in residential solar and residential power storage, but the revenues from these verticals are dwarfed by other segments.

7. The trend over the past decades is Elon Musk being successful at innovating in underserved parts of the market.

8. Elon Musk is not currently pursuing any underserved parts of the market.

[bccdee]

And man behind the cybertruck has not earned the presumption that he has a secret plan. If it looks like things are going poorly, they probably are.

[karel-3d]

But Tesla and SpaceX are different companies

[sixQuarks]

Not for long