[noosphr]

Your original post in the thread is about an automated dark factory with thousands of AI agents. It's amazing but we can't see it because they are in stealth mode.

Then the first example of a project done by AI without human intervention is someone who _explicitly_ states that they drove the way the agent behaved.

From the blog:

>The human who drives the agent might matter more than how the agents work and are set up, the judge is still out on this one

>If one person with one agent can produce equal or better results than "hundreds of agents for weeks", then the answer to the question: "Can we scale autonomous coding by throwing more agents at a problem?", probably has a more pessimistic answer than some expected.

I'm really not understanding what this proves other than the fact that AI + human is great and AI + AI is shit. Something that both me and the person who did the browser agreed on: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46783282

[simonw]

Yeah, the "dark factory" thing is basically unproven right now. I reported on what I'd seen because it was genuinely fascinating, and a potential glimpse into how this stuff might work. I'm not ready to say that it's a good idea or that it's demonstrated to work outside of a demo I saw for an hour a couple of months ago that looked credible to me at the time.

[ElFitz]

> Yeah, the "dark factory" thing is basically unproven right now.

Isn’t that as close as "it" gets for now?

> but then I started trusting the model more and more. These days I don’t read much code anymore. I watch the stream and sometimes look at key parts, but I gotta be honest - most code I don’t read. I do know where which components are and how things are structured and how the overall system is designed, and that’s usually all that’s needed.

https://steipete.me/posts/2025/shipping-at-inference-speed

[ben_w]

> Isn’t that as close as "it" gets for now?

Always has been.

Even when I was a kid, people were saying all software is either a prototype or obsolete.

The difference is the cycle got compressed from half of what we know becoming obsolete every 18 months, we just don't know which half, to every 18 weeks.